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03/11/2022 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:32:59 PM Start
01:33:46 PM HB283
01:33:49 PM Presentation: Port of Nome
02:22:16 PM Presentation: Port of Alaska
04:01:33 PM Adjourn
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HOUSE BILL NO. 283                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   making  appropriations,   including  capital                                                                    
     appropriations,     reappropriations,     and     other                                                                    
     appropriations;  making   supplemental  appropriations;                                                                    
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:33:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: PORT OF NOME                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:33:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN HANDELAND, MAYOR, CITY OF  NOME, introduced himself and                                                                    
provided a prepared statement:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Thank  you  for  convening  this hearing  on  Ports  of                                                                    
     Alaska. Just  as my friend from  Anchorage will convey,                                                                    
     ports are  vital links not  serving just a  single area                                                                    
     or need but  are vital links to  communities across the                                                                    
     State  of Alaska  connecting us  both within  the state                                                                    
     and to  the Lower  48 and  the rest  of the  world. The                                                                    
     Arctic deep draft port in Nome  is not a new concept by                                                                    
     any stretch  of the imagination. Nome  long promulgated                                                                    
     the  need  for  this   causeway  to  avoid  costly  and                                                                    
     sometimes dangerous lightering of commodities.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Handeland  provided  an example  of  the  dangers  that                                                                    
occurred. He explained that barges  would go through a jetty                                                                    
causing wakes. He recalled as a  child one of the barges had                                                                    
lost  its cargo,  which  happened to  be  the winter's  beer                                                                    
supply. When  the incident had  occurred, the  community had                                                                    
been fortunate  to have numerous concerned  citizens who had                                                                    
assisted  with  the cleanup.  He  returned  to the  prepared                                                                    
statement:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Mayors before me and everyone  in the interim have been                                                                    
     stanch  supporters of  the port  expansion, but  no one                                                                    
     was  more  enthusiastic as  a  proponent  than my  good                                                                    
     friend and neighbor, the  late Mayor Richard Beneville,                                                                    
     who I'm  sure many  of you have  heard from  before and                                                                    
     his famous introduction  to everybody, "Hello central."                                                                    
     As  a  60-year resident  of  Nome  I've seen  our  port                                                                    
     dramatically  change   with  freight   including  food,                                                                    
     fuels,  for  houses,  and gravel  shipments  increasing                                                                    
     exponentially  both in  imports and  now as  exports as                                                                    
     well.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The current port  has served our needs for  the past 20                                                                    
     years. The  new port  is projected  to serve  our needs                                                                    
     for at  least the  next 50. When  Nome was  selected by                                                                    
     the  Corps  of  Engineers  for funding  thanks  to  the                                                                    
     ardent  support   and  unceasing  persistence   of  our                                                                    
     federal delegation most of the  people of our community                                                                    
     were quite excited as was  I, what many had brushed off                                                                    
     as a  pipe dream is so  close to fruition, so  close to                                                                    
     becoming  a reality.  In working  with the  corps, port                                                                    
     users,  communities,  and   also  consulting  with  our                                                                    
     Native organizations and  subsistence users, we believe                                                                    
     we've worked out a program  and a project that balances                                                                    
     the needs of all people  in our community. This project                                                                    
     will   position    Nome   to   meet    extra   capacity                                                                    
     requirements.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Today I sit here before you  as a 17-year mayor of Nome                                                                    
     and I  can't be more  proud of our  community including                                                                    
     our port commission,  city administration, consultants,                                                                    
     engineers, and  advisors, but is  the diligent  work of                                                                    
     our  long-term port  director Joy  Baker here  that has                                                                    
     got us  to this point.  In a presentation by  Ms. Baker                                                                    
     in  a few  minutes,  you'll see  the  rendering of  the                                                                    
     final project  of the ADDP [Arctic  Deep-Draft Port] as                                                                    
     we  call  it.  We   are  satisfied  this  project  will                                                                    
     compliment the  existing port and balance  the nation's                                                                    
     needs as well as our own.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     One just never knows  what challenges and opportunities                                                                    
     lie ahead. After all, it  seems we all expected the ice                                                                    
     curtain  that  melted  20 years  ago  to  be  something                                                                    
     permanent. Sadly,  it appears  that that is  now coming                                                                    
     back into place  and just right across the  water a few                                                                    
     miles  from  where  I  live.   In  addition  to  local,                                                                    
     regional,   statewide  benefits,   the  ADDP   may  see                                                                    
     somewhat unexpected benefits, but  we will be poised to                                                                    
     further  provide for  a  benefit  for greater  national                                                                    
     security.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     As  weather  evolves,  we are  seeing  longer  shipping                                                                    
     seasons every  year. With  that there  is exponentially                                                                    
     more traffic on the  water. Global warming is resulting                                                                    
     in changes  but also  in opportunities. My  good friend                                                                    
     Richard  espoused  when  he  returned  from  an  Arctic                                                                    
     conference that,  "Here they were talking  about global                                                                    
     warming in the future tense.  Heck, up here in Nome and                                                                    
     the Arctic, we're in it."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     In summation,  we must be  prepared for  the increasing                                                                    
     activity in Nome and the  Arctic area. The $250 million                                                                    
     already released  by the federal OMB  provides the need                                                                    
     to  kickstart and  take our  needs to  reality. But  in                                                                    
     order  to  proceed,  we require  partnership  with  the                                                                    
     State  of  Alaska  to   provide  matching  funds.  This                                                                    
     project  got  funded  more rapidly  than  we  had  ever                                                                    
     anticipated,  and   we  continue  to  seek   out  other                                                                    
     partnerships  including  other  federal  entities  that                                                                    
     might assist  us in other components  that will enhance                                                                    
     the benefit  of the  project completion even  more. The                                                                    
     corps is  ready for  seed, they would  like to  bid the                                                                    
     project  by  about November  of  this  year and  cannot                                                                    
     proceed if  the match  is not  available by  that time.                                                                    
     Without  financial   participation  by  the   State  of                                                                    
     Alaska,  the corps  will likely  move the  $250 million                                                                    
     down  to another  project  on their  list,  not in  the                                                                    
     state. That  would result in an  opportunity being lost                                                                    
     for Nome  and for  our state  as well.  We respectfully                                                                    
     request your assistance this legislative session.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:40:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Handeland continued reading from a prepared statement:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The investment needed sounds staggering,  but to put it                                                                    
     in  perspective, this  is a  50-year project  so that's                                                                    
     about $3.5 million annually.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Handeland  thanked   the  committee   for  its   time.                                                                    
Additionally, he  relayed his support  for the needs  of the                                                                    
Port of  Alaska. He hoped  the ports were not  competing for                                                                    
funds. He spoke  to the importance of both  of the projects.                                                                    
He  introduced  the  city's port  director  and  turned  the                                                                    
presentation over to her.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:41:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  noted  that  Representative  Johnson  had                                                                    
joined the meeting.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JOY BAKER,  PORT DIRECTOR, CITY OF  NOME, introduced herself                                                                    
and  shared  there  would  be  a video  clip  prior  to  the                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[A video clip was shown.]                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:44:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Baker  provided   a  PowerPoint   presentation  titled                                                                    
"Alaska's Arctic Deep-Draft Port  at Nome," dated March 2022                                                                    
(copy  on  file). She  began  on  slide 2  titled  "Regional                                                                    
Transshipment Hub." She read from a prepared statement:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     In  a regional  sense, the  Port  of Nome  serves as  a                                                                    
     transshipment  hub  for  the western  part  of  Alaska,                                                                    
     shipping to over 60 coastal  and river communities from                                                                    
     Platinum  to  Barrow  at  one  time  or  another  since                                                                    
     statistical  tracking  began   in  1987  following  the                                                                    
     construction of  the original  port causeway.  Prior to                                                                    
     that all of  the cargo was lightered  from offshore and                                                                    
     offloaded  and offloaded  in the  small boat  harbor at                                                                    
     the dock  operated by Crowley.  In 1977,  Crowley built                                                                    
     the small push-tug and barge  sets and began delivering                                                                    
     cargo and  fuel to  the regional communities  along the                                                                    
     coast and in  the rivers that they and  others still do                                                                    
     today.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The port has grown significantly  in the last 15 years,                                                                    
     so much  so that it has  been a challenge for  the city                                                                    
     to keep  up with the demand  for additional facilities.                                                                    
     However, over time, incremental  progress has been made                                                                    
     through construction  of an additional dock,  a loading                                                                    
     ramp,  floats, and  some dredging,  all  of which  were                                                                    
     funded by the city  partnering with federal, state, and                                                                    
     local entities.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:46:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker turned to images of commodity movement on slide 3                                                                     
and continued with prepared remarks:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     To better demonstrate our  transshipment role, I pulled                                                                    
     together  some   visuals  here   that  give   a  better                                                                    
     perspective. With  the exception of the  tankers on the                                                                    
     left, these  pictures show the port  causeway structure                                                                    
     that  host three  commercial docks,  each  200 feet  in                                                                    
     length.  Due  to  the significant  demand  by  multiple                                                                    
     industries,   our  facility   operators  must   conduct                                                                    
     operations  as safely  and efficiently  as possible  as                                                                    
     the dock schedule  is tight and there  is almost always                                                                    
     another  vessel waiting  for that  space. In  addition,                                                                    
     stockpiling gravel  rock and containers  doesn't happen                                                                    
     quickly,  so coordinating  is key  so as  not to  delay                                                                    
     other  operators.  This  drives  up  cost  and  creates                                                                    
     shipping inefficiencies in an  industry that is already                                                                    
     subject to  weather delays,  tidal fluctuations,  and a                                                                    
     limited operating window.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     One  thing   here  worthy  to  note,   the  top  photos                                                                    
     demonstrate our  export of rock  and gravel,  which has                                                                    
     grown exponentially and is  now putting greater demands                                                                    
     on the  docks, basically taking over  the northern dock                                                                    
     and occupying the  center dock for most  of the season.                                                                    
     This  has caused  congestion to  escalate, driving  the                                                                    
     need for additional dock space  so other industries can                                                                    
     conduct operations  as well. Lastly, depth  at the dock                                                                    
     limits  how much  fuel can  be loaded  onto a  barge to                                                                    
     bring  in  and  discharge, which  requires  vessels  to                                                                    
     perform  the  on-water   transfers  from  deeper  draft                                                                    
     vessels  to  bring  in  deliveries.  That  is  what  is                                                                    
     demonstrated by the tankers alongside offshore.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:48:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker moved to images related to ship resupply/crew                                                                         
change on slide 4 and continued with prepared remarks:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     In  addition to  the commodity  fleet demands  for dock                                                                    
     space, we also service many  ship fleets as shown here.                                                                    
     We are actually excited to  have 22 cruise ships on the                                                                    
     dock schedule,  but we anticipate some  may cancel soon                                                                    
     as the  stops that they  had planned for  Russian ports                                                                    
     will likely not  occur. However, with the  Port of Nome                                                                    
     serving as  critical refueling  and resupply  point for                                                                    
     vessels transiting  to and  from the  Northwest Passage                                                                    
     are  those with  seasonal missions  in the  Artic, both                                                                    
     have  grown considerably  and  the  congestion and  the                                                                    
     challenge  and competing  for space  at  the docks  has                                                                    
     only accelerated.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     As mentioned in the last  slide, the ships must compete                                                                    
     for space  with the commodity  vessels and most  of the                                                                    
     time  my harbor  master  likes  to call  it  a game  of                                                                    
     Tetris. So,  the ships you  see on the right  are about                                                                    
     the largest we  can bring into the  existing dock based                                                                    
     on the  length or  draft as  the navigation  channel is                                                                    
     only 500  feet wide  at zero mean  lower low  water and                                                                    
     based on the existing basin  depth of minus 22 feet, we                                                                    
     are unable to refuel  the national security cutters and                                                                    
     icebreakers  of the  Coast Guard,  the new  polar class                                                                    
     vessel, nor the Navy destroyers.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker addressed Bering Strait vessel traffic on slide 5                                                                     
with prepared remarks:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Speaking of vessel traffic at  Nome, that and more make                                                                    
     up the tracks and transit  shown here in this table and                                                                    
     graphic as  provided by the Marine  Exchange of Alaska.                                                                    
     The  number of  transits have  more than  doubled since                                                                    
     2009,  which  corresponds  with   the  Port  of  Nome's                                                                    
     growth, all of  which is clearly shown  in the graphic.                                                                    
     The  traffic growth  is immense  and shows  no hint  of                                                                    
     slowing  down.  Without  the  capacity  to  accommodate                                                                    
     these vessels  into a  secure protected  dock facility,                                                                    
     their  needs to  resupply and  refuel must  be done  on                                                                    
     open water or they must  transit to Dutch and return to                                                                    
     continue with their mission sets.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:50:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker turned to slide 6 and discussed general                                                                               
navigation features cost-shared with corps with prepared                                                                        
remarks:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Now  stepping  briefly  into  the  development  of  the                                                                    
     Arctic Deep-Draft Port, I wanted  to bring some clarity                                                                    
     to the  overall project  and how  the corps  has broken                                                                    
     this out  into three separate phases.  Each phase shown                                                                    
     here lists  the primary  elements of  construction with                                                                    
     the corresponding traded area  reflected in the drawing                                                                    
     below. The extension of the  existing causeway shown in                                                                    
     the  shaded  structure  is the  largest  phase  of  the                                                                    
     project    Phase 1 on the  left   as this  requires the                                                                    
     bulk  of the  armourstone and  construction of  a 2,000                                                                    
     foot  continuous dock  phase  with  all the  associated                                                                    
     utilities. Phase 2 will  provide the necessary dredging                                                                    
     to  minus 40  feet in  the new  deep-water basin  and a                                                                    
     minus 28  dredging basin in  the existing  outer basin.                                                                    
     Phase  3 will  remove  the existing  breakwater to  the                                                                    
     east and reconstruct  it into a causeway  with two 400-                                                                    
     foot docks  and perform  the remainder of  the dredging                                                                    
     to minus 28  feet. For now, the city and  the corps are                                                                    
     fully focused on Phase 1.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:51:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker looked at a rendering of the Port of Nome on                                                                          
slide 7. She continued with prepared remarks:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Here  we have  a rendering  or cartoon  of the  Phase 1                                                                    
     project,   which  provides   a  bit   of  a   different                                                                    
     perspective that helps  define the features cost-shared                                                                    
     with the corps and those  that are actually 100 percent                                                                    
     non-federal sponsor responsibility,  which is the city.                                                                    
     The blue rectangle represents  the existing facility we                                                                    
     are operating. Under  the corps logo on  the right, the                                                                    
     breakwaters and dredging are the  only two elements the                                                                    
     corps  controls  and  pays a  portion  for,  which  are                                                                    
     considered  the general  navigation features  under the                                                                    
     navigation  program.  The   federal  cost-share  is  65                                                                    
     percent,  leaving  35  percent for  the  sponsor.  More                                                                    
     details will  come up  here in  a few  slides. Shifting                                                                    
     onto  the  left,  the  city   is  contracted  with  PND                                                                    
     Engineers and  CRW Engineering  for what  is identified                                                                    
     as the  local service facilities, of  which the sponsor                                                                    
     pays 100 percent of all design and construction.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker advanced to slide 8 titled "Arctic Deep Draft                                                                         
Port Modifications" and continued with prepared remarks:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Within the  Army Corps  feasibility study  completed in                                                                    
     Spring  of  2020,  the  corps  identified  the  project                                                                    
     purpose  and objective  shown here,  which justify  the                                                                    
     project  under   the  RSH  program  and   elevated  the                                                                    
     completed    study    to   corps    headquarters    for                                                                    
     consideration.  Once the  report was  signed in  May of                                                                    
     2020,  there was  an increased  level of  interest well                                                                    
     across  federal/state  agencies  as well  as  industry,                                                                    
     which  prompted what  appeared  to  be an  acceleration                                                                    
     towards  construction.  Each  of  the  elements  listed                                                                    
     above demonstrate  a critical need in  this remote area                                                                    
     of  Alaska  and  the  U.S.  Arctic,  needs  which  have                                                                    
     escalated due  to increased  vessel traffic  in support                                                                    
     of  commerce,  resource  exploration  and  development,                                                                    
     fisheries,  construction,  and  tourism. All  of  which                                                                    
     have   grown  exponentially,   driving  demand   for  a                                                                    
     seasonal presence by  regulatory, life safety, defense,                                                                    
     and response agencies.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:53:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker briefly looked at the project benefits on slide 9                                                                     
and continued with prepared remarks:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Here we'll take  a brief look at  the project benefits,                                                                    
     which correspond  well with  the objectives.  We'll get                                                                    
     into slides  on some of these  individual benefits, but                                                                    
     just wanted  to highlight that this  graphic reflecting                                                                    
     the  LNG tanker  transits that  occurred in  January of                                                                    
     2021 without  icebreaker escorts, which was  a complete                                                                    
     surprise to  the residents along the  Alaska coastline.                                                                    
     Although transiting  within the  northern sea  route in                                                                    
     Russian  waters,   this  activity   raised  significant                                                                    
     concerns with  the coastal  residents as  products that                                                                    
     enter the water  know no bounds for  spreading into the                                                                    
     sea  and across  to the  American side  causing serious                                                                    
     risks  to  the  food  safety  for  those  who  rely  on                                                                    
     indigenous foods from  the sea in an  effort to sustain                                                                    
     their   cultural  ways   and   educate  their   younger                                                                    
     generations.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker advanced to national security/mariner safety on                                                                       
slide 10. She continued with prepared remarks:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     I think  most everyone  in the  state and  nation would                                                                    
     agree  that national  security and  life safety  are of                                                                    
     the utmost  importance, which is  reflected in  all the                                                                    
     coast guard stations you see  along the other coasts in                                                                    
     the  country. With  ongoing actions  by Russia  driving                                                                    
     the  need  even  further.  In fact,  many  people  with                                                                    
     historical  knowledge and/or  experience in  the Arctic                                                                    
     realize  that   we  are  well   behind  the   curve  in                                                                    
     developing  maritime   facilities  in  the   Arctic  to                                                                    
     support our  strategic defense  and life  safety assets                                                                    
     in fulfilling  their critical  missions. While  some of                                                                    
     the smaller  Coast Guard vessels  can dock in  Nome and                                                                    
     do,  neither  the  national  security  cutter  nor  the                                                                    
     icebreakers from  any country were able  to resupply or                                                                    
     refuel at the dock.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     This expansion of the port  will enable all Coast Guard                                                                    
     and  U.S. Navy  assets to  use Nome  as a  port staging                                                                    
     base with  dock access  with dock access  for resupply,                                                                    
     refueling,  minor   ship  repairs,   maintenance,  crew                                                                    
     changes,  shore leave,  medical,  etcetera. Taking  the                                                                    
     time  to  transit  to   Dutch  Harbor  creates  mission                                                                    
     inefficiencies    and   increases    operating   costs,                                                                    
     especially  when  it  concerns  a  damaged  or  sinking                                                                    
     cruise ship with over 1,000  people aboard in inclement                                                                    
     weather that  needs response  assets to  deport quickly                                                                    
     to save as many as possible.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:56:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker turned to slide 11 titled "Arctic port reception                                                                      
facility." She continued with prepared remarks:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Recent polar  code changes have  mandated the  need for                                                                    
     action  to develop  regional port  reception facilities                                                                    
     in the Arctic. As the  only coastal port north of Dutch                                                                    
     Harbor,  Nome feels  it has  an  obligation to  develop                                                                    
     these facilities  and pull the region  into compliance.                                                                    
     The  city   has  completed  a  feasibility   study  and                                                                    
     currently  securing design  and  construction funds  to                                                                    
     enable Nome to  serve this critical role  in the Arctic                                                                    
     region keeping ship waste out of Arctic waters.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker discussed mining and resource development on                                                                          
slide 12 with prepared remarks:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Resource and exploration is yet  another benefit to the                                                                    
     region  that can  continue to  be further  investigated                                                                    
     and  the ability  to transship  these minerals  will be                                                                    
     attainable  with  the  extension to  deeper  water  and                                                                    
     increased  laydown  facilities  that serve  to  attract                                                                    
     industry.  There  are  a variety  of  deposits  on  the                                                                    
     Seward  Peninsula  that  with  suitable  and  efficient                                                                    
     oversight  can be  responsibly  developed  to bring  an                                                                    
     economic boost and more jobs to the region.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:57:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick noted that Vice-Chair Ortiz had joined the                                                                     
meeting online.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker spoke to economic benefits during construction on                                                                     
slide 13. She read from prepared remarks:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     This  table  shows jobs  and  income  at the  regional,                                                                    
     statewide,  and national  levels considered  as primary                                                                    
     spending.   With  secondary   spending  rolling   these                                                                    
     dollars into  further industries. This  economic influx                                                                    
     alone will  bring significant benefit to  a region that                                                                    
     is still hovering in the recession.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker addressed economic benefits post construction on                                                                      
slide 14 with prepared remarks:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     This is  brought by  additional employees  and services                                                                    
     needed for  the port: external vendors,  fuel delivery,                                                                    
     landlords,  hotels,  groceries, restaurants,  etcetera.                                                                    
     This economic  trickle down will spread  throughout the                                                                    
     region as  residents come to  Nome for jobs  during the                                                                    
     operating season.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker discussed the cost on slide 15 with prepared                                                                          
remarks:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     What  you have  here is  both  the cost  shared to  the                                                                    
     corps and the standalone cost  to the city. All numbers                                                                    
     in red  are the  city's responsibility.  At the  top of                                                                    
     the second and third columns  you'll see a 75/25 spilt,                                                                    
     which is  how the  corps handles the  construction. All                                                                    
     the  way to  the right  you'll  see a  plus 10  percent                                                                    
     general  navigation features  that they  require to  be                                                                    
     paid over time.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     For this exercise, we are  looking at a 75/25 split for                                                                    
     the  construction  of  Phase 1.  You'll  see  the  $250                                                                    
     million  under  the corps  that  was  allocated by  the                                                                    
     federal  dollars. Under  the  non-federal sponsor,  the                                                                    
     $83 million is our 25  percent match to the Army Corps.                                                                    
     Further under the  LSF 100 percent column,  we have $81                                                                    
     million in local service  facilities: docks, roads, and                                                                    
     utilities.  In  addition  to   some  final  design  and                                                                    
     bidding and  inspection during construction as  well as                                                                    
     design and  inspection of Phase  2, as the  corps wants                                                                    
     to move  into Phase  2 for  design at  the end  of this                                                                    
     year. This brings the city's  total requirement for our                                                                    
     local  service facilities  to $92  million with  the 25                                                                    
     percent  match  to  the corps  of  $83  million,  which                                                                    
     brings us to the $175 million.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The city  has already paid  over $2 million  for design                                                                    
     of Phase  1 to 65 percent  and was working with  an in-                                                                    
     house   engineer   for   collaborating,   tying   those                                                                    
     intricate designs into the core design.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:00:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baker  concluded  the  presentation  with  the  project                                                                    
design and construction schedule on  slide 16. She read from                                                                    
prepared remarks:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Lastly,  here's  the  schedule the  city  is  currently                                                                    
     working on  with funding deadlines for  construction as                                                                    
     defined by  the corps,  which require both  the general                                                                    
     navigation  features   (GNF)  and  the   local  service                                                                    
     facilities   construction   funding   upfront.   Before                                                                    
     construction,  the solicitation  package  is final  and                                                                    
     goes out for  bid. Under design, 100  percent we expect                                                                    
     to be complete both the  city's elements and the corps'                                                                    
     by  January  of 2023.  Once  that  is complete  and  is                                                                    
     compiled  into a  solicitation  package,  the corps  is                                                                    
     requiring the  city to sign  a PPA, which is  a project                                                                    
     partnering agreement,  for construction. The  bids will                                                                    
     go out  in March or April  of 2023, award in  the fall,                                                                    
     and construction  will begin  in 2024 through  2025. We                                                                    
     anticipate  two seasons  for Phase  1. Our  deadline to                                                                    
     sign the  project partnering  agreement, which  is when                                                                    
     the corps requires construction  funds upfront in order                                                                    
     to proceed with soliciting.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baker was  happy to  answer questions  and thanked  the                                                                    
committee for asking them to present.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative   LeBon  thanked   the  presenters   for  the                                                                    
presentation. He  referred to Ms.  Baker's reference  to the                                                                    
possibility  of a  U.S. Naval  ship using  Nome as  its home                                                                    
port.  He  asked  if  it   was  a  tangible  possibility  or                                                                    
currently a hope.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baker  replied  that  it  was  currently  a  hope.  She                                                                    
elaborated that  the port's engineering  specifications were                                                                    
being planned to meet the  requirements of Naval vessels, so                                                                    
there would not be a conflict.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon   asked  for  verification   that  the                                                                    
project  would prepare  for the  possibility  and would  not                                                                    
need more money.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baker   replied  that  the  project   planned  for  the                                                                    
possibility and would not need more money.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon asked  for  verification the  proposed                                                                    
business model was self-sustaining.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:04:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baker answered  affirmatively. She  stated the  vessels                                                                    
were already there; the current  port could accommodate some                                                                    
vessels  but   not  others.  She  confirmed   the  city  was                                                                    
confident the  port would be self-sustaining.  She clarified                                                                    
that the dredging  to 40 feet in the deep  water basin would                                                                    
not  take place  until 2026  after the  construction of  the                                                                    
extension  was completed  and the  basin was  protected. She                                                                    
estimated it  would be  fall of 2026  before the  port could                                                                    
accommodate the deeper vessels.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  had heard  about the  possibility of                                                                    
use by Coast Guard ships but  not a Naval ship. She asked if                                                                    
there  was something  different  perhaps she  had not  heard                                                                    
about,  or if  they  were talking  about  military ships  in                                                                    
general.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker  answered that  the port had  been talking  to the                                                                    
Coast  Guard for  quite some  time. She  believed there  was                                                                    
interest from  the Coast Guard  but noted there  were always                                                                    
funding challenges. The city had  talked briefly to the Navy                                                                    
because  the  Navy  typically communicated  with  the  corps                                                                    
instead  of  the city.  She  relayed  the city  was  hopeful                                                                    
regarding  the Navy  but there  had been  more conversations                                                                    
with the  Coast Guard. She  clarified there was  nothing yet                                                                    
on record.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  stated there had been  many years of                                                                    
conversations about the idea of  having a Coast Guard vessel                                                                    
ported  in  Nome at  least  during  the summer  months.  She                                                                    
thought it  seemed like  there was  a good  possibility. She                                                                    
shared  that  she  had   numerous  conversations  about  the                                                                    
possibility  over   the  years  and  thought   the  hope  of                                                                    
something coming to fruition contained substance as well.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:06:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Handeland  relayed   that   the   city  had   numerous                                                                    
conversations  with  the  federal delegation  on  the  Coast                                                                    
Guard and  Navy. He  shared that the  secretary of  the Navy                                                                    
had  visited Nome.  He referenced  the BOT  [Board of  Trade                                                                    
Saloon] and  remarked that the  secretary had  remarked that                                                                    
he  would like  to see  gray hulled  ships belonging  to the                                                                    
U.S. in Nome.  He elaborated that the city  had been working                                                                    
with  Senator Dan  Sullivan and  Senator Lisa  Murkowski and                                                                    
they had  been in contact  numerous times with the  Navy and                                                                    
Coast Guard. He noted that  Senator Sullivan was a master of                                                                    
using some  of the confirmation hearings  to solicit answers                                                                    
to some of the projects, including the Nome port project.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  wished the city well  in its effort.                                                                    
She relayed  that about  five years back  she had  served as                                                                    
president for the  Alaska Conference of Mayors.  She did not                                                                    
think  people  realized  the  amount  of  transit  and  boat                                                                    
traffic existed  along western Alaska.  She remarked  on the                                                                    
oil  and sludge  from boat  bilges washing  up and  covering                                                                    
walruses  and  so  on.  She  considered  the  area  may  not                                                                    
necessarily  be a  defense point  for the  Coast Guard,  but                                                                    
there  could be  policing  of  environmental discharge.  She                                                                    
highlighted  that the  breakdown of  the substances  did not                                                                    
happen in the same way it  did in a warmer area. She pointed                                                                    
out  there was  currently  no policing  of  limits in  those                                                                    
waters. She  stated the issue  was near  and dear to  her to                                                                    
have some enforcement and presence  in the area. She thought                                                                    
it  was  important for  the  communities  in the  area.  She                                                                    
shared that  she had  been working on  the issue  and having                                                                    
discussions on the topic for quite some time.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Handeland   thanked  Representative  Johnson   for  her                                                                    
perspective.  He was  appreciative  they were  not the  only                                                                    
ones thinking that way.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  welcomed the presenters.  He recalled                                                                    
visiting Nome  years back  when Mr.  Handeland had  been the                                                                    
port   director.  He   expressed  appreciation   for  former                                                                    
Representative Richard  Foster who  had served on  the House                                                                    
Finance Committee  for many years.  He shared that  the late                                                                    
representative would  have been proud  to know the  city was                                                                    
at the current point with the  project. He remarked it was a                                                                    
moment in history for a  small community. He elaborated that                                                                    
like   other  small   communities   in   Alaska,  Nome   had                                                                    
experienced its  ups and  downs in  terms of  moving forward                                                                    
including  rising and  falling fuel  prices. He  assumed the                                                                    
armourstone and  gravel would  come from  a local  source to                                                                    
avoid the  transportation cost.  Additionally, the  issue of                                                                    
dredging  was always  an issue  of concern  where there  was                                                                    
tidal action. He shared his  experience from his hometown of                                                                    
Dillingham  where the  harbor  and other  places  had to  be                                                                    
dredged  annually. He  asked about  annual maintenance  cost                                                                    
and  the difference  between dockage  and  moorage fees.  He                                                                    
expressed his affinity for Nome  and had a connection to the                                                                    
community.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:12:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Handeland  answered that the community  had an abundance                                                                    
of good  material as a  result of long-term  mining activity                                                                    
in  the  area. The  city  believed  here  were a  couple  of                                                                    
sources  of  armourstone  including  the  Cape  Nome  Quarry                                                                    
operated   by   the   Bering  Strait   Native   Corporation.                                                                    
Additionally,  there were  some quarry  potentials on  state                                                                    
lands.  He  stated  it  would  make no  sense  to  ship  the                                                                    
materials  from Camas,  Washington. The  city would  like to                                                                    
see all  of the mining, development,  hauling, and placement                                                                    
of  the stone  to  be  done by  as  many  local and  Alaskan                                                                    
residents  as possible.  He  addressed  the annual  dredging                                                                    
done in Nome's  inner harbor. He detailed that  the city had                                                                    
entered  into a  contract in  1940. He  asked Ms.  Baker for                                                                    
confirmation that the  city paid $25 or $2,500  per year for                                                                    
the work.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baker answered  that the  city used  to pay  $2,500 and                                                                    
currently paid zero.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Handeland relayed  that  as the  project  went on,  the                                                                    
corps would maintain responsibility  for the dredging in the                                                                    
new and  expanded area.  The city  would be  responsible for                                                                    
annual  maintenance on  physical structures  and connections                                                                    
to the  port including the docks,  bollards, anodes, driving                                                                    
surfaces,  and utility  connections. He  explained that  the                                                                    
items had been calculated and  included in the city's tariff                                                                    
rates. He  relayed that the community's  biggest concern was                                                                    
whether it would have to pay  more for fuel and groceries to                                                                    
support the  port. The city  felt confident in  working with                                                                    
the Corps of Engineers that  the additional traffic and port                                                                    
activity  would   be  sufficient   to  fund  the   types  of                                                                    
requirements and  that costs would  not be put on  the backs                                                                    
of the general public.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:15:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster emphasized  some  of the  positives of  the                                                                    
port  in  Nome.  In  the  past, Nome  had  been  focused  on                                                                    
increased  shipping, tourism,  and exploration  for oil.  He                                                                    
explained  that none  of those  activities  were going  away                                                                    
even though Shell's work had  been paused. He thought it was                                                                    
necessary  to get  ahead of  the  curve and  not behind.  He                                                                    
noted  the activities  were global  items. Additionally,  as                                                                    
oceans  warmed,  fish moved  north,  which  would result  in                                                                    
increased fishing up north. He  highlighted that things were                                                                    
changing  geopolitically. He  stated  it would  be great  if                                                                    
there was an  icebreaker sitting at the end of  port and the                                                                    
ability for the Navy to come in and have a presence.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick asked when the  first [Iditarod] musher was                                                                    
expected in Nome.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster replied Monday or Tuesday morning.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick thanked the presenters.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:17:40 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:22:08 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: PORT OF ALASKA                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:22:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVE  BRONSON, MAYOR,  MUNICIPALITY  OF ANCHORAGE,  provided                                                                    
opening remarks. He  hoped to convince the  committee of the                                                                    
importance  of  the  Port  of   Alaska  project.  He  listed                                                                    
multiple presenters who would provide information.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:24:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KOLBY  HICKEL,  DEPUTY  MUNICIPAL MANAGER,  MUNICIPALITY  OF                                                                    
ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference),  thanked the  committee for                                                                    
the  opportunity   to  present.  She  provided   an  opening                                                                    
statement with prepared remarks:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     We appreciate the opportunity to provide the                                                                               
     legislature an update on the condition of the port and                                                                     
     urgency  of attaining  funding. The  Port of  Alaska is                                                                    
     the lifeline for  90 percent of Alaskans, and  it is in                                                                    
     critical  condition. In  November  2018, Anchorage  was                                                                    
     hit with  a 7.1  earthquake; if that  earthquake lasted                                                                    
     an  additional  seven  seconds,  the  port  would  have                                                                    
     failed. Alaskans would be without  food security, so we                                                                    
     must  act  now  to  rebuild  the  corroded  and  broken                                                                    
     infrastructure.  A  failure  of  this  magnitude  would                                                                    
     affect  everyone   from  the   North  Slope   to  Nome,                                                                    
     Fairbanks, Wasilla, Seward,  Southeast communities, and                                                                    
     everyone in between.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The  municipality received  positive news  a few  weeks                                                                    
     ago  that we  won the  MARAD [Maritime  Administration]                                                                    
     lawsuit with  an amount of $367  million awarded. While                                                                    
     this is  an encouraging  first step  towards recovering                                                                    
     the financial burden the  municipality sustained, it is                                                                    
     still  subject to  the judicial  appeals process.  This                                                                    
     will  likely take  years to  complete. We  do not  know                                                                    
     when we  will get the  final settlement, we  don't know                                                                    
     the  final  number  either.  In  addition,  the  amount                                                                    
     awarded  and what  the municipality  receives could  be                                                                    
     altered by  the appeals  process. The  MARAD settlement                                                                    
     is  an  award  for   damages  incurred  by  the  failed                                                                    
     northwest  extension   construction  project,   and  it                                                                    
     really  should not  be  viewed as  a  windfall for  the                                                                    
     municipality.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     In  addition,  this settlement  money  may  be tied  to                                                                    
     stabilizing   the  north   extension  portion   of  the                                                                    
     modernization program,  which means we couldn't  use it                                                                    
     on  other portions  of the  program unfortunately.  The                                                                    
     port will need  $1 billion by 2025 for  this project to                                                                    
     move forward. We  are asking for $600  million from the                                                                    
     state to  rebuild terminal 1,  which will  help achieve                                                                    
     food security  in Alaska for  generations to  come, and                                                                    
     we are  pursuing all  funding options  including tariff                                                                    
     increases.  Tariff increases  will directly  impact the                                                                    
     financial burden to all Alaskans.  In order to minimize                                                                    
     the impact  of potential tariff increases  to Alaskans,                                                                    
     we must  receive a substantial portion  of funding from                                                                    
     both  the  state  and federal  governments.  Prices  of                                                                    
     groceries  and commodities  will increase  for everyone                                                                    
     in  Alaska   based  on  the  tariff   increases.  Those                                                                    
     affected especially  will be in rural  communities, low                                                                    
     income,  and  fixed  income residents,  because  tariff                                                                    
    increases are pass through costs to all consumers.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     I   want  to   reiterate,  our   highest  priority   is                                                                    
     rebuilding  a seismically  stable port  to benefit  all                                                                    
     Alaskans  and we  will achieve  this goal.  However, we                                                                    
     cannot take the risk of  destabilizing our state and we                                                                    
     truly  need your  help.  Thank you  very  much for  the                                                                    
     opportunity to speak.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:27:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  AMES, PROGRAM  MANAGER, JACOBS  ENGINEERING, provided                                                                    
opening remarks  and was honored  to be part of  the program                                                                    
due to its  critical nature. He shared that he  had been the                                                                    
program manager of the Port  of Alaska modernization program                                                                    
since  the  end of  November  2021.  He read  from  prepared                                                                    
remarks:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The first  generation of marine structures  at the Port                                                                    
     of Alaska is in grave  condition; if the structures are                                                                    
     not  replaced,  they  will fail.  Whether  the  failure                                                                    
     happens  suddenly  as the  result  of  a major  seismic                                                                    
     event  or happens  slowly  over the  next  decade as  a                                                                    
     result   of   ongoing   corrosion  that   renders   the                                                                    
     structures unsafe for operation,  its not a question of                                                                    
     if, but when. The  Port of Alaska modernization program                                                                    
     has  been  working  diligently  and  intensely  towards                                                                    
     replacing these facilities. With  the completion of the                                                                    
     new petroleum and cement terminal  this summer, Phase 1                                                                    
     of the  program, the state  will restore  fuel security                                                                    
     to  Alaska  in the  form  of  a resilient  fuel  import                                                                    
     terminal  designed  to   withstand  seismic  and  other                                                                    
     physical risks for the next 75 years.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     In 2021,  we commenced  Phase 2,  the longest  and most                                                                    
     challenging  phase of  the modernization  effort, which                                                                    
     focuses on replacing the  deteriorating cargo docks and                                                                    
     restoring food  security to the  state. Despite  all of                                                                    
     the  physical  challenges  to construction  in  Alaska,                                                                    
     such  as shortened  construction seasons,  extreme tide                                                                    
     ranges,  environmental   permitting  restrictions,  and                                                                    
     long  deployment distances,  the  primary challenge  to                                                                    
     Phase 2  at this  time is the  assurance of  funding to                                                                    
     complete it.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:29:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames provided a PowerPoint  presentation titled "Port of                                                                    
Alaska Modernization Program:  Presentation to House Finance                                                                    
Committee," dated March  11, 2022. He turned  to the program                                                                    
phasing on slide 2:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   • Successful Completion of Phase 1                                                                                         
   • Immediate and Worsening Risk to Food Security                                                                            
   • Plan for Phase 2 and New Cargo Terminals                                                                                 
   • Challenges to Phase 2                                                                                                    
   • Construction Phasing and Costs                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames spoke to the successful completion of phase 1 on                                                                       
slide 3 with prepared remarks:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     We really  encourage you to visit  this newest facility                                                                    
     at  the Port  of Alaska,  which is  a petroleum  cement                                                                    
     terminal, commonly  known to  us as  the PCT.  It might                                                                    
     not  look that  complex at  first glance,  but it  is a                                                                    
     structural engineering marvel.  The structures that you                                                                    
     see  on  the  right  side of  the  screen  are  12-foot                                                                    
     monopiles  with  fenders  designed for  35-foot  tides.                                                                    
     They are unique in the world and to Alaska.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames addressed the final stage status of Phase 1 on                                                                         
slide 4 with prepared remarks:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The major marine structures  were completed in November                                                                    
     of 2021.  Equipment commissioning  is ongoing  and will                                                                    
     be completed by the end of  this month. It will be open                                                                    
     to  barge services  next  month and  it  will be  fully                                                                    
     complete and  open to  tankers following  dredging this                                                                    
     summer. There's some minor  additional marine work plus                                                                    
     dredging to open  it up to tankers,  but effectively it                                                                    
     will be  operating in April  and operating  for tankers                                                                    
     at  the end  of  this  summer. It  had  a $225  million                                                                    
     budget, $126  million of  which was  funded by  a state                                                                    
     contribution,  and  with  it  fuel  security  has  been                                                                    
     established.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     But  there's an  immediate and  worsening risk  to food                                                                    
     security.  The November  2018  earthquake registered  a                                                                    
     magnitude of 7.1 and the  epicenter was less than eight                                                                    
     miles  from our  dock. The  port survived  and remained                                                                    
     open, but  if the  earthquake happened today,  we could                                                                    
     expect  even greater  damage.  It  has highlighted  the                                                                    
     risk  of food  and fuel  security presented  by seismic                                                                    
     events.  As  I mentioned,  Phase  1  took care  of  the                                                                    
     latter, but food security is  obviously a more critical                                                                    
     risk right  now. The existing facilities  are supported                                                                    
     by  more than  1,400  piles that  are suffering  severe                                                                    
     corrosion,  which  is  normal with  marine  structures.                                                                    
     They have  survived between 40  and 60  years depending                                                                    
     on  which structure  we're looking  at and  are nearing                                                                    
     the end of their useful lives due to this corrosion.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:32:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames turned to food security and risk on slide 5. He                                                                        
highlighted that the red dots on the image reflected areas                                                                      
that were damaged by the 2018 earthquake.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames discussed the condition of the existing facility                                                                       
on slide 6 with prepared remarks:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     It  is  very  important  that we  know  it  is  already                                                                    
     laterally unstable.  What does  that mean?  The largest                                                                    
     lateral forces  to which an  overall dock  structure is                                                                    
     susceptible   would    typically   be    generated   by                                                                    
     earthquakes  and the  liquefaction of  soils that  they                                                                    
     may  cause. The  port  was not  originally designed  to                                                                    
     withstand the  level of earthquakes that  Anchorage has                                                                    
     experienced  and   expects  to  experience   again  and                                                                    
     deterioration  of  the  structures  via  corrosion  has                                                                    
     worsened any  lateral capacity that the  facilities did                                                                    
     have.  There's  a   significant  risk  of  catastrophic                                                                    
     failure in an earthquake  of sufficient size, duration,                                                                    
     or location.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The top  photo is  a pile  that actually  failed during                                                                    
     the  2018 earthquake;  it split  at a  horizontal weld.                                                                    
     What you're  seeing in the  photo below, I'll  get into                                                                    
     in  the  next  bullet.   Just  as  importantly  to  the                                                                    
     catastrophic concern  from earthquakes,  the structures                                                                    
     are also  losing vertical  capacity. Basically,  due to                                                                    
     the corrosion,  the remaining life and  the strength of                                                                    
     the piles  is decreasing,  and the  remaining operating                                                                    
     life as  designed is  estimated to  be between  four to                                                                    
     eight  years.  What that  means  is  within about  four                                                                    
     years  the seismic  engineers  who  have evaluated  the                                                                    
     structure are indicating that we  will most likely have                                                                    
     to put  operating restrictions on  the terminal  and on                                                                    
     existing operations.  That might not  impact operations                                                                    
     as they stand right now,  but within six to eight years                                                                    
     or so,  it most  likely will.  So, productivity  at the                                                                    
     terminal will slow down.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     What  you're seeing  in that  second photo  are repairs                                                                    
     that  were  done  to  corroded  piles  to  restore  the                                                                    
     vertical  capacity  back  in  the  early  2000s.  Those                                                                    
     repairs  are single  event repairs,  and they  are past                                                                    
     their useful life  as well; they usually  last about 15                                                                    
     years and can't be redone.  Even the repaired areas are                                                                    
     losing  their capacity.  The  most  important thing  is                                                                    
     this condition  worsens with  every tide  cycle because                                                                    
     one  of the  main  reasons for  the  corrosion was  the                                                                    
     exposure   to  air   after  moistening   in  a   marine                                                                    
     environment.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:35:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames discussed liquefaction and lateral failure on                                                                          
slide 7 with prepared remarks:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Liquefaction occurs  when certain  types of  soils that                                                                    
     are  saturated  it  becomes liquid  and  unstable  when                                                                    
     exposed  to the  stresses  and  motion of  earthquakes.                                                                    
     These  pictures are  damage that  occurred to  the soil                                                                    
     slope at the port during  the 2018 earthquake. They are                                                                    
     the initial  signs of  liquefaction. If  the earthquake                                                                    
     had  gone  on  longer  or had  been  stronger  or  more                                                                    
     centrally located  this could  have liquified.  If this                                                                    
     soil  liquifies, it  destabilizes  and  slides off  the                                                                    
     slope  and puts  a lateral  force on  those piles  that                                                                    
     you're seeing on the right.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     In  this   case,  the  entire  continuous   dock  would                                                                    
     experience this lateral force  from the collapsing soil                                                                    
     and  could  wipe  this  dock  out  because  it  is  not                                                                    
     laterally stable.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames spoke about statewide cargo transport hub on slide                                                                     
8 with prepared remarks:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The port structures  are at risk and to  what does that                                                                    
     actually translate. I'd like to  show a few slides that                                                                    
     highlight the importance  of the Port of  Alaska to the                                                                    
     state,  to the  nation, and  even  to the  world and  I                                                                    
     should thank  the Port of  Alaska and  the municipality                                                                    
     for statistics  and other information in  the following                                                                    
     slides.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The  port is  Alaska's  intermodal  transport hub  that                                                                    
     connects   the  state's   primary  cargo   distribution                                                                    
     systems: marine,  road, rail, air, and  pipeline. Barge                                                                    
     terminals  that serve  western  Alaska, connections  to                                                                    
     the  Alaska  highway  system  -  and  I  understand  75                                                                    
     percent  of   all  Alaskans   live  on   the  Anchorage                                                                    
     connected road  system    multiple rail  connections on                                                                    
     the  port  property,   the  Ted  Stevens  International                                                                    
     Airport and JBER runways within  sight of the dock, the                                                                    
     Port of  Alaska valve yard, and  pipelines that connect                                                                    
     on and  off-port tank farms, truck  loading racks, rail                                                                    
     loading racks, and also the  Nikiski petroleum dock and                                                                    
     refinery    infrastructure.    All   of    these    are                                                                    
     infrastructure that exist at the port.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     This  interconnected infrastructure  gives  the port  a                                                                    
     more   abundant  and   more  efficient   inbound  cargo                                                                    
     handling facility than  every other Southcentral Alaska                                                                    
     port combined.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  asked if there was  ever a potential                                                                    
for a ferry dock at the port.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames answered that from  a business perspective he could                                                                    
not  speak to  the concept  because he  was involved  in the                                                                    
engineering of the project. He  thought it did not seem like                                                                    
a bad  idea. He reasoned  it would  depend on the  areas the                                                                    
ferry would serve and what the routes would be.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:39:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames moved to the three  major functions on slide 9 with                                                                    
prepared remarks:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The Port of  Alaska's role is not  just commercial. The                                                                    
     port plays a  critical role in national  defense and in                                                                    
     state  disaster  response. It  is  a  primary tool  for                                                                    
     disaster  resiliency   for  the   region,  yet   it  is                                                                    
     currently  itself  at  a   profound  risk,  which  only                                                                    
     increases the importance of the dock's replacements.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames turned to slide 10 and read from prepared remarks:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The  Port  of Alaska  is  the  state's primary  inbound                                                                    
     cargo handling facility; it handles  half of all Alaska                                                                    
     inbound  freight  (it  is   the  state's  main  inbound                                                                    
     containerized  freight and  fuel distribution  center),                                                                    
     it handled roughly  4.7 million tons of  fuel and cargo                                                                    
     in 2020, supporting more than  $14 billion in statewide                                                                    
     commercial activity,  and handled goods consumed  by 90                                                                    
     percent of  Alaska's population.  Half of all  the Port                                                                    
     of Alaska's freight is  delivered to final destinations                                                                    
     outside  of  Anchorage statewide,  including  Southeast                                                                    
     Alaska  via empty  barge backhauls.  The port  accounts                                                                    
     for  75  percent  of  all  non-petroleum  marine  cargo                                                                    
     shipped into Alaska.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     So,  when we  talk about  food security,  we of  course                                                                    
     mean  in part,  actual  groceries  and foodstuffs  that                                                                    
     cross the Port  of Alaska's dock. But we  also mean the                                                                    
     equipment, tools,  and other goods necessary  to ensure                                                                    
     subsistence  food  security.  These  statistics  should                                                                    
     make it easy to see how  any risk to the port itself is                                                                    
     an immediate threat to the  food security of the entire                                                                    
     state.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:41:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames looked at a map of Alaska showing the importance                                                                       
of the hub on slide 11. He moved to activities at the                                                                           
existing cargo docks on slide 12 with prepared remarks:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     There's containerized  cargo, which is the  one we most                                                                    
     often  talk about  and  what we  really  think when  we                                                                    
     think  about food  security. As  I mentioned,  the port                                                                    
     has  multiple roles.  The containerized  cargo included                                                                    
     crane service, what  we call lift-on/lift-off container                                                                    
     offloading  and  we  also  have  truck  service,  roll-                                                                    
     on/roll-off  container operations.  In addition,  there                                                                    
     are military deployments,  vehicles and aircraft arrive                                                                    
     to the  port on  vessels and are  either lifted  off or                                                                    
     rolled off, similar to  containers. Cruise vessels also                                                                    
     use the  port. Fuels  and cement  vessels also  use the                                                                    
     port, they would be serviced  now by the new PCT. There                                                                    
     are dredging and other maintenance  vessels that use it                                                                    
     as well.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:42:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames moved to slide 13  and discussed that Phase 1 would                                                                    
be completed  in the  coming summer  and would  be receiving                                                                    
barges in in  April. He noted the location was  shown on the                                                                    
righthand  side of  the  slide.  He moved  to  slide 14  and                                                                    
discussed that  Phase 2  would occur from  2021 to  2032. He                                                                    
explained  the demolition  would  take place  from south  to                                                                    
north where the existing terminal  1 would be demolished and                                                                    
replaced  with  a  crane  service  berth,  followed  by  the                                                                    
demolition of  terminal 2,  which would  be replaced  with a                                                                    
new RORO  [roll-on/roll-off] berth. Another part  of phase 2                                                                    
was  the   north  extension   stabilization,  which   was  a                                                                    
rectification of  the problems  caused by the  element under                                                                    
MARAD in the early 2000s. He  stated it would need to be cut                                                                    
back and restabilized in order  to make save navigating room                                                                    
for the new terminals.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  asked if there  was a plan  in place                                                                    
to  ensure   the  port  would  be   operational  during  the                                                                    
demolition and reconstruction.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames  answered affirmatively.  He explained that  one of                                                                    
the  challenges  of  the  project  was  maintaining  ongoing                                                                    
operations while  construction was  taking place.  He stated                                                                    
it was one  of the reasons for the  long construction period                                                                    
due to the  need to maneuver around  existing operations and                                                                    
plan the staging to accommodate operations.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:44:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames discussed  the status of Phase 2,  which started in                                                                    
2021 on slide 15. He read from prepared remarks:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The preliminary  engineering is  ongoing for  the cargo                                                                    
     terminals.  We  have  just completed  and  submitted  a                                                                    
     draft   report    on   the    structural   alternatives                                                                    
     engineering and analysis, which  looks at modifying the                                                                    
     support  foundation  for  the concept  designs  with  a                                                                    
     means  to accelerate  construction  and  also make  the                                                                    
     facility more  permittable to  speed up  the permitting                                                                    
     process. We are already  designing the access trestles.                                                                    
     We  have a  peer review  ongoing from  an outside  firm                                                                    
     just to  ensure we're  squeezing everything we  can out                                                                    
     of  the schedule  and  the  cost. We  are  also in  the                                                                    
     process   of  hiring   another  independent   technical                                                                    
     reviewer  to be  the  constructability reviewer  during                                                                    
     the design process.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     We are developing requests for  proposals to design and                                                                    
     build the north extension  stabilization work. The work                                                                    
    would be done in parallel to the cargo docks work.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:46:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ames returned  to a  drawing  on slide  14 showing  the                                                                    
Phase 2 design.  He explained that inshore of  terminal 2 on                                                                    
the drawing  was the existing port  administration building,                                                                    
which  was actually  sitting on  a dock  that was  laterally                                                                    
compromised.  One of  the steps  to protect  workers at  the                                                                    
port  was  to  build  the new  administration  building.  He                                                                    
relayed that  proposals had been  received and  the contract                                                                    
should be awarded in April.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon asked  if the  primary purpose  of the                                                                    
peer review  was to validate engineering  conclusions as the                                                                    
project went on.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Ames   answered   affirmatively.   He   explained   it                                                                    
specifically  looked at  the construction  staging, phasing,                                                                    
and scheduling, in addition to the permitting plan.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  asked how peer review  interfaced with                                                                    
the  independent technical  review.  He asked  if the  items                                                                    
were one and the same.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames  answered it  was not the  same contractor  and the                                                                    
two   reviews  served   slightly   different  purposes.   He                                                                    
explained that the initial peer  review was requested by the                                                                    
municipality  to ascertain  that the  viability of  the plan                                                                    
and   construction  phasing   and  that   the  project   was                                                                    
optimizing   everything   possible   in   the   construction                                                                    
scheduling and permitting.  The independent technical review                                                                    
was a  check on the detailed  design that took place  as the                                                                    
detailed structural  design was  going on. He  elaborated it                                                                    
entailed   checking  calculations   of  the   very  specific                                                                    
detailed designs rather than the overall phasing concept.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:48:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames  continued with slide  15 and  discussed permitting                                                                    
efforts. The project had  already requested a jurisdictional                                                                    
determination  and a  draft permit  for the  north extension                                                                    
stabilization to separate the  landside work from the marine                                                                    
work and  commence with the  landside work to get  it moving                                                                    
quicker.  The  project  had started  to  prepare  the  draft                                                                    
permit application for cargo terminals 1 and 2.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames  moved to phase 2  challenges on slide 16.  He read                                                                    
from prepared remarks:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     What  are the  major challenges  to Phase  2? First  of                                                                    
     all,  the climate.  Shortened construction  seasons due                                                                    
     to  weather and  ice conditions  make it  necessary for                                                                    
     multiple     mobilizations     and     demobilizations,                                                                    
     essentially  doubling  the  required  time  for  marine                                                                    
     construction as  compared to warm weather  projects. In                                                                    
     addition, tides. Extreme tides  and the strong currents                                                                    
     associated  with   them  make  scheduling   and  safety                                                                    
     concerns during construction.  But these two categories                                                                    
     are  technical  challenges  that we  as  engineers  can                                                                    
     resolve directly.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The other  two categories listed    permit restrictions                                                                    
     and funding   we should  discuss in further detail. Our                                                                    
     biggest  permitting challenge  is the  need to  protect                                                                    
     the  Cook Inlet  Beluga  whales. The  noise created  by                                                                    
     marine construction is  considered detrimental to their                                                                    
     survival.   So,  our   permits   carry   with  them   a                                                                    
     requirement to shut down pile  driving and other marine                                                                    
     construction  operations   when  Belugas   are  sighted                                                                    
     within  specific   distances  of  the   worksite.  This                                                                    
     significantly   impacts   construction  time.   It   is                                                                    
     estimated that  over 30 days of  construction time were                                                                    
     lost  over the  last  two years  at  the petroleum  and                                                                    
     cement terminal due to  these restrictions. When you've                                                                    
     only  got  a six  month  construction  time and  you're                                                                    
     losing  15  percent  of  it, it  was  an  even  greater                                                                    
     challenge.  Even  longer   delays  can  be  experienced                                                                    
     during  the permitting  process as  mitigation measures                                                                    
     are proposed and debated. Of  course, funding is one of                                                                    
     our biggest challenges.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:51:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames spoke to slide 17 related to meeting the                                                                               
challenges with prepared remarks:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     I  want to  speak a  little bit  more about  what we're                                                                    
     doing  to  meet  these challenges.  On  the  permitting                                                                    
     side,  we've   actually  engaged   in  a   Section  214                                                                    
     agreement within  the last three  months with  the U.S.                                                                    
     Corps  of  Engineers  to fund  and  assign  a  position                                                                    
     dedicated  at  the  corps   to  prioritize  our  permit                                                                    
     applications  and  the effort  that  the  corps has  in                                                                    
     processing them.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     In  addition, we  have already  begun preparation  of a                                                                    
     draft application  for the U.S. Corps  permits to begin                                                                    
     discussion of  the permits before the  official process                                                                    
     begins.  We are  also  applying  for FAST-14  Dashboard                                                                    
     status, which  is a federal  program to  prioritize the                                                                    
     permitting process  for dashboard projects.  The status                                                                    
     does not  guarantee us permits,  but it  does guarantee                                                                    
     priority processing.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The  last   thing  I'll   mention  is   the  structural                                                                    
     alternatives analysis where we  are looking at reducing                                                                    
     the number  of piles  in the  foundation, investigating                                                                    
     quieter  alternative   piling  technologies,   and  the                                                                    
     ongoing   peer   review   used  the   information   for                                                                    
     evaluation  of the  phasing  schedule.  With that,  the                                                                    
     hope  was  not  just   to  speed  up  the  construction                                                                    
     process, but to speed up the permitting process.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames  moved to funding  challenges on slide 18  and read                                                                    
from prepared remarks:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Funding  presents many  challenges that  we're here  to                                                                    
     discuss  today.   Building  facilities  in   Alaska  is                                                                    
     expensive, even  more expensive  than anywhere  else in                                                                    
     the  U.S.  With  the  climate and  tidal  challenges  I                                                                    
     mentioned  earlier,  in  combination with  the  seismic                                                                    
     risks  that require  enhanced designs  simply make  the                                                                    
     higher cost unavoidable. Cargo docks  1 and 2 will cost                                                                    
     a total of $1.05 billion.  The biggest challenge is the                                                                    
     funding must  be secured for  the whole  package before                                                                    
     proceeding with initial demolition and construction.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:53:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon stated  that the  project needed  $600                                                                    
million  immediately. He  asked  if there  had  been a  bond                                                                    
proposal to Anchorage community to  help with the $1 billion                                                                    
total price tag.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Ames  deferred   the  question   to   the  mayor   and                                                                    
municipality.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bronson  replied that  the  short  answer was  yes.  He                                                                    
detailed  that he  had gotten  together  with the  Anchorage                                                                    
Assembly  several  months  earlier  and there  had  been  an                                                                    
ordinance  for  $165  million. He  reported  that  over  $40                                                                    
million of the bond package had been sold.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon asked  for  verification  it was  $165                                                                    
million in  voter approved funding  and the city was  in the                                                                    
process of selling the bonds.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bronson replied  that the  bonds had  been approved  by                                                                    
himself  and  the  assembly. He  reiterated  that  over  $40                                                                    
million had been sold and the  bonds would be sold along the                                                                    
way.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:55:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ames addressed  the Phase  2 schedule  on slide  19. He                                                                    
relayed the  first step of  the north end  stabilization was                                                                    
included, but there was a  focus on the cargo terminals. The                                                                    
completion  of the  first  terminal was  expected  to be  by                                                                    
2029. He explained that the  terminal would provide the food                                                                    
security talked  about during the presentation.  He noted it                                                                    
would  not meet  the full  demand for  cargo volume,  but it                                                                    
would  provide  a  seismically resilient  dock  designed  to                                                                    
withstand earthquakes and other  physical risks for the next                                                                    
75 years. Terminal 2 construction  would go through 2033. He                                                                    
highlighted that  through the various  alternatives analysis                                                                    
he  had  mentioned, the  schedule  would  be compressed.  He                                                                    
explained the  schedule on slide  19 reflected a  worst case                                                                    
scenario.  He  stated  that  if  the  project  received  the                                                                    
funding as planned, the schedule could be compressed.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames advanced to estimated  annual costs on slide 20. He                                                                    
shared that  his colleagues would further  address the topic                                                                    
in the next part of the  presentation. He moved to a funding                                                                    
summary  by  project  on  slide  21.  He  relayed  that  the                                                                    
petroleum and  cement terminal cost about  $225 million. The                                                                    
state  had  supported  about  $126   million  of  the  total                                                                    
(roughly 56  percent of the  total cost). The  overall cargo                                                                    
docks  should cost  $1.05 billion.  The current  request was                                                                    
for $600  million to establish food  security, which equated                                                                    
to roughly  the same  percentage provided  by the  state for                                                                    
the   petroleum  and   cement  terminal.   He  thanked   the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:57:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bronson  shared that he and  staff had been in  Juneau a                                                                    
couple of weeks earlier to  gather questions on the project;                                                                    
the questions  from legislators had informed  the content of                                                                    
the presentation in the current meeting.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:58:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROSS  RISVOLD,  PUBLIC   FINANCE  MANAGER,  MUNICIPALITY  OF                                                                    
ANCHORAGE  (via  teleconference),   introduced  himself  and                                                                    
shared   information  about   his   career  background.   He                                                                    
expressed  appreciation to  the  committee  for hearing  the                                                                    
presentation. He  moved to slide  24 and addressed  the cost                                                                    
of the  Port of Alaska  modernization project. He  noted the                                                                    
cost was phased in and the  cost of the different phases was                                                                    
shown in yellow at the bottom  of the slide. He relayed that                                                                    
Phase 1 was  nearly complete, Phase 2  had several different                                                                    
components, and Phases  3 and 4 were  single components that                                                                    
together comprised the modernization program.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Risvold  moved to  slide 25 related  to Phase  1 funding                                                                    
sources   comprised  of   three  different   categories.  He                                                                    
outlined   that   the   petroleum   cement   terminal   cost                                                                    
approximately  $225  million.  The  state  had  paid  $148.5                                                                    
million.  Additionally,  the   project  had  received  grant                                                                    
funding  from   MARAD,  the  municipality   had  contributed                                                                    
funding, and  port equity  of about  $11.5 million  had been                                                                    
used. In December of 2020,  port revenue bonds in the amount                                                                    
of $20  million had been  issued. To support the  bonds, the                                                                    
municipality had issued a tariff  over a ten year period (to                                                                    
mitigate rate shock)  to cover the debt service.  As part of                                                                    
the  bond  issuance  in  2020,  the  municipality  had  sold                                                                    
another $40 million  in bonds to refund  some existing bonds                                                                    
from the prior project in  2008. He summarized that the city                                                                    
had sold  $65 million in  bonds in 2020. Another  $7 million                                                                    
in bonds had yet to be issued and would complete Phase 1.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:01:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick looked  at the graph on slide  25 and noted                                                                    
that it  did not appear  to show  the state's portion  at 56                                                                    
percent. She  shared that  she had come  up with  66 percent                                                                    
when she had done the math. She asked for clarification.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Risvold answered  he was not sure  where the calculation                                                                    
had come from, and he could  follow up. He stated that there                                                                    
may have  been some other  funds that perhaps had  been used                                                                    
for the prior project.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  noted there was $175  million in the                                                                    
governor's budget  for ports on  the Knik Arm. She  asked if                                                                    
the   amount   was    factored   into   the   municipality's                                                                    
calculations.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bronson  answered that the municipality  was considering                                                                    
all   options.  He   assumed   Representative  Johnson   was                                                                    
referring to a  port authority mechanism. He  noted that the                                                                    
governor was fairly focused on  the concept. He relayed that                                                                    
the municipality was looking at  the concept but had made no                                                                    
commitment thus far.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson asked  if the  $175 million  [in the                                                                    
governor's  budget]  was  outside  the  calculation  in  the                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bronson replied that was his understanding.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Risvold moved  to the Phase 1 funding  timeline on slide                                                                    
26. He relayed the timeline had  begun in 2011. The State of                                                                    
Alaska had  offered support to  the project for  four years.                                                                    
He pointed  to the last two  lines of a table  and explained                                                                    
that  the  PIDP  and  BUILD grants  were  awarded  from  the                                                                    
federal government. The total was $193 million.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:04:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Risvold  addressed funding sources for  Phases 2 through                                                                    
5,  which   would  complete  the   entire  Port   of  Alaska                                                                    
modernization  program (on  slide 27).  The majority  of the                                                                    
funding was needed  for Phase 2. He detailed  that the cargo                                                                    
terminals 1  and 2 would  cost approximately $1  billion. In                                                                    
order to  commence with  the construction,  the municipality                                                                    
needed a source  of funds committed to support  the cost. He                                                                    
stated  the  cargo  terminal  could   not  be  started  with                                                                    
anything less  because they  needed a  commitment supporting                                                                    
the entire  Phase 2. The  municipality was asking  the state                                                                    
to contribute  $600 million. He  noted the  municipality had                                                                    
$233 million set aside, which  was comprised of a short-term                                                                    
bargaining   program  including   debt  and   revenue  bonds                                                                    
authorized by  the municipality. Additionally,  funding from                                                                    
federal grants was  to be determined. He  elaborated that if                                                                    
federal grants  did not materialize, the  municipality would                                                                    
be  forced to  use  municipal debt  to  support the  project                                                                    
(assuming the  project also received  the $600  million from                                                                    
the state).                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  referenced  the  range of  $1.6  to  $1.8                                                                    
billion and asked about the variation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Risvold responded that  the numbers changed periodically                                                                    
based  on the  engineer's  forecast. He  explained that  the                                                                    
dollar amount used  for many months was  $1.6 billion. There                                                                    
had  been a  recent update  to the  numbers provided  by Mr.                                                                    
Ames  and his  colleagues, and  he believed  the number  had                                                                    
been updated to  $1.79 billion. He relayed  that the updated                                                                    
number was  fairly current and  would add up to  the numbers                                                                    
across the bottom  of slide 24. He noted that  page 24 added                                                                    
up to $1.792  billion. He highlighted the  estimates did not                                                                    
include inflation or cost escalations over time.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick asked  if the graph in the  middle of slide                                                                    
27 reflected the total project for Phases 2 through 5.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Risvold answered affirmatively.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick asked  if  it was  possible  to receive  a                                                                    
graph reflecting Phase 2 only.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Risvold agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:08:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon asked  if the municipality's short-term                                                                    
borrowing was  an obligation of  the residents  of Anchorage                                                                    
in addition  to their  property tax bill.  Alternatively, he                                                                    
asked if it reflected an  interim borrowing event that would                                                                    
bridge state or other monies.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Risvold replied that a  short-term borrowing program was                                                                    
a mechanism used to finance  major construction projects. He                                                                    
stated it  involved borrowing money using  short-term rates,                                                                    
which  was  cost-effective  and a  savings  to  the  project                                                                    
overall. Eventually, short-term  borrowing programs would be                                                                    
required  to be  converted  to long-term  revenue bonds.  He                                                                    
elaborated  that   the  short-term  borrowing   program  had                                                                    
authorization   from  the   municipal  assembly   and  would                                                                    
eventually turn  into long-term  revenue bonds.  The revenue                                                                    
bonds  had  been  authorized  as  well.  He  explained  that                                                                    
revenue bonds  by the  municipality for  a project  like the                                                                    
port  were not  required to  be approved  by the  voters. He                                                                    
expounded that  the investors relied  on the revenue  of the                                                                    
port  for payment  of their  investment. He  clarified there                                                                    
was no  taxing of property  owners for debt service  for the                                                                    
port revenue bonds.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter  asked about the  construction cost                                                                    
estimates.  He observed  that there  was not  a construction                                                                    
cost escalation  used for projected  future costs.  He asked                                                                    
what numbers the municipality  was contemplating for several                                                                    
years in the  future. He could easily see the  cost could be                                                                    
much different than it was currently.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Risvold   answered  that   the  municipality   had  not                                                                    
addressed that question; the  municipality was using numbers                                                                    
reflecting present  day. He suggested  that Mr. Ames  may be                                                                    
able  to  address  the  question.  He  reiterated  that  the                                                                    
municipality  was  using  today's   dollars,  which  was  an                                                                    
important factor to note.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ames replied  that the  estimates  generated for  going                                                                    
into  the preliminary  design phase  were based  on a  "mid-                                                                    
construction  estimate."  He  explained the  estimates  were                                                                    
based  on  prices  anticipated through  the  middle  of  the                                                                    
construction  period   to  be  the  prices   throughout  the                                                                    
project. He elaborated that the  numbers would be tweaked as                                                                    
the project got  further into the detailed  design stage. He                                                                    
clarified that the estimates  did consider escalation during                                                                    
the planned  construction period. He noted  that the numbers                                                                    
would  be  off  if  the   work  commenced  much  later  than                                                                    
anticipated,  but the  numbers should  be reasonable  if the                                                                    
work progressed  as expected. He remarked  that the estimate                                                                    
became  more refined  as  the design  was  more refined.  He                                                                    
added that the docks were still in the concept stage.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:12:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter  remarked on  forthcoming [federal]                                                                    
infrastructure   funding  to   be   distributed  to   states                                                                    
nationwide. He highlighted that it  was already hard to find                                                                    
labor.  He could  not imagine  what the  situation would  be                                                                    
like in  a number of years.  He suspected the cost  would be                                                                    
larger in a couple of years.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:13:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Risvold  turned   to  slide   28  and   discussed  the                                                                    
municipality's  $600 million  request in  the FY  22 capital                                                                    
budget. The funding would allow  for the completion of cargo                                                                    
terminal 1,  which is a  portion of  Phase 2 of  the project                                                                    
and  would provide  food security  for the  residents across                                                                    
Alaska.  He  stated  it  was   the  top  priority  of  Mayor                                                                    
Bronson's administration.  In order to enter  into contracts                                                                    
for  construction activity,  an identified  source of  funds                                                                    
was  necessary.  He  reiterated earlier  testimony  that  $1                                                                    
billion  was  needed  to start  construction  of  the  cargo                                                                    
terminal (terminal  1 and terminal 2).  The municipality had                                                                    
$200  million in  authorized, but  not  yet issued,  revenue                                                                    
bonds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Risvold  explained that  the  municipality  had a  $100                                                                    
million  authorization  of  revenue  bonds that  were  in  a                                                                    
municipal   ordinance   a   couple  of   years   back.   The                                                                    
municipality had sold $65 million  of the bonds to refinance                                                                    
$40 million of  outstanding debt for the  prior project from                                                                    
2008.  Additionally,  it had  provided  $20  million in  new                                                                    
money for  the PCT. He  relayed that another $5  million was                                                                    
needed to  fund a debt  service reserve account  required by                                                                    
investors and to  pay cost of issuance fees.  There were $35                                                                    
million in  unissued bonds remaining from  the original $100                                                                    
million.  He  noted an  ordinance  had  recently passed  the                                                                    
Anchorage Assembly  for $165 million in  bonds. The combined                                                                    
amounts  resulted in  the $200  million authorized,  but not                                                                    
yet  issued  revenue bonds.  The  municipality  hoped to  be                                                                    
awarded additional grants  on an annual basis  by MARAD. The                                                                    
grants were  called the RAISE grant  and Port Infrastructure                                                                    
Development Program (PIDP).  The municipality would continue                                                                    
to actively pursue the grants.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Risvold  continued  that   the  municipality  hoped  to                                                                    
receive $600 million from the  state to reach the $1 billion                                                                    
amount. Additionally, the municipality  hoped to continue to                                                                    
gain awards  from the  federal government.  The municipality                                                                    
would ask the Anchorage Assembly  to continue to support the                                                                    
project to make up any  difference. The funding would enable                                                                    
the project  to enter  into Phase 2  and into  contracts for                                                                    
the entire cargo terminal.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:17:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  referenced   the  mention  of  food                                                                    
security several places in  the presentation. She referenced                                                                    
the deep  draft Port  of Whittier, the  Port of  Seward, and                                                                    
Port MacKenzie, which were all  accessible by rail, road, or                                                                    
both.  She asked  how the  port in  Anchorage would  provide                                                                    
additional  food security  to the  state. She  remarked that                                                                    
the other ports would be used for imports.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Risvold responded  that the  other  ports mentioned  by                                                                    
Representative Johnson  could not  handle the  ships handled                                                                    
by  the Port  of Alaska.  He stated  it was  not practically                                                                    
possible. He explained  the other ports were  not built with                                                                    
cranes  and  roll-on/roll-off  functionality.  He  estimated                                                                    
there  was five  to  seven  days of  food  in Anchorage.  He                                                                    
stated that  if the port failed,  the ships could not  go to                                                                    
another port.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bronson   elaborated  that  the   municipality,  Jacobs                                                                    
Engineering, TOTE,  and Matson,  had all  looked at  it over                                                                    
the  years.  He  stated  that  with  additional  funding  $5                                                                    
million had  gone towards a  RORO ramp in Seward  (the total                                                                    
project had been $25 million),  which would be helpful in an                                                                    
emergency. He  explained that the connectivity  to airports,                                                                    
the pipeline, trucking, shipping,  and barge traffic already                                                                    
existed  in  Anchorage.  He highlighted  that  the  port  in                                                                    
Anchorage  was the  one tsunami-proof  port. He  pointed out                                                                    
what had happened  in Seward and Whittier in  1964 [during a                                                                    
large-scale earthquake].  He stated the whole  threat was an                                                                    
earthquake.  He elaborated  that an  earthquake could  cause                                                                    
the port in  Anchorage to fall over due  to the liquefaction                                                                    
issue; however, the  Anchorage port was immune  to a tsunami                                                                    
while the other ports were  not, which had been demonstrated                                                                    
in 1964.  He remarked that  Valdez and Homer  could possibly                                                                    
be brought  in but looking  at the trucking traffic  to make                                                                    
it happen was not feasible. He  noted that the cost would be                                                                    
exorbitant due to the cost of transportation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  asked if  Mr. Bronson  was including                                                                    
Port MacKenzie when making the  determination there was only                                                                    
one  tsunami-proof port.  She asked  if  Port MacKenzie  was                                                                    
vulnerable to tsunami as well.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bronson answered, "It's certainly  in the same structure                                                                    
and that's  a different  conversation." He stated  that Port                                                                    
MacKenzie had  no means to  offload container ships  and did                                                                    
not connect to a pipeline.  The other thing to consider when                                                                    
thinking about the  upper Cook Inlet was  that shippers knew                                                                    
that when  building a port,  it was  necessary to get  to 75                                                                    
percent operating capacity  before considering expansion. He                                                                    
detailed that currently the Port  of Alaska in Anchorage was                                                                    
operating at about  35 percent in the winter  and 40 percent                                                                    
in  the summer.  He stated  that  it was  a fundamental  and                                                                    
economic principle of  port design that until  75 percent of                                                                    
operating capacity was reached  "you don't start looking for                                                                    
another port."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:21:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter  stated  it was  a  valid  concern                                                                    
there were  not ports currently  able to pick up  the slack.                                                                    
He referenced the timeframe provided  in the presentation of                                                                    
four to six years. He  considered the degraded operations on                                                                    
the dock  as it  currently stood. Additionally,  he believed                                                                    
the  timeline  was to  begin  construction  around 2025.  He                                                                    
surmised that based on the  timeline there would be degraded                                                                    
operations before  construction or demolition of  terminal 1                                                                    
began. He  asked how the slack  could be picked up  if there                                                                    
were no other ports capable of offloading containers.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames  answered the  concerns were  valid, which  was the                                                                    
reason the port was critical.  He highlighted that the north                                                                    
extension that  needed to  be fixed due  to poor  design had                                                                    
been started in  the early 2000s foreseeing  the problem. He                                                                    
stated  that  20  years  down   the  line  the  problem  had                                                                    
worsened. He stated the four  to eight years referred to the                                                                    
timeframe  in   which  the  engineers  called   for  putting                                                                    
capacity restrictions  on the existing terminal.  He relayed                                                                    
the existing debt  capacity of the terminal  was higher than                                                                    
what was  needed for the existing  operations. He elaborated                                                                    
that the  initial restrictions that  may be  implemented may                                                                    
download the  load capacity  of the deck,  but it  would not                                                                    
impact  the  existing  container  operations  because  their                                                                    
operating load  was less. Once  the six to  eight-year range                                                                    
was reached,  there may be  restrictions and there may  be a                                                                    
small  section  of  the terminal  that  could  not  tolerate                                                                    
vehicles or they  may be limited to loads that  could be put                                                                    
on the deck in certain locations.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames  characterized the problem  as critical. As  far as                                                                    
the lack  of other  ports to  pick up the  load, it  was not                                                                    
just about  the fact  that ships  could not  get in,  it was                                                                    
about the infrastructure to move  the cargo once it arrived.                                                                    
He recognized there was a  rail and highway from Seward, but                                                                    
it  could not  be  relied  on to  handle  the weekly  volume                                                                    
coming  through  Anchorage.  He   pointed  out  that  if  an                                                                    
earthquake destroyed the Port  of Anchorage, it would likely                                                                    
destroy some of  the bridges and highway along  the route to                                                                    
Seward, in addition  to other areas in  Anchorage. He stated                                                                    
it was a concern and the  reason it was important to get the                                                                    
more resilient docks up and running.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter asked  where  the  slack would  be                                                                    
picked up once demolition had  started if the other ports in                                                                    
Alaska could not be relied on.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames answered that at  no time during construction under                                                                    
the  current  plan would  operations  be  reduced below  the                                                                    
current capacity;  it was a  reason for the  long timeframe.                                                                    
He elaborated that currently there  were three terminals. He                                                                    
detailed  that 2  and 3  were the  container terminals  that                                                                    
would become 1  and 2. He clarified the  existing terminal 1                                                                    
was the petroleum oil and  lubricants terminal that would be                                                                    
picked  up   by  the  existing  PCT.   Meanwhile,  container                                                                    
operations  could continue.  He  expounded  that terminal  1                                                                    
would be built  just offshore and Matson would  move to that                                                                    
location. Subsequently,  terminal 2 would be  demolished and                                                                    
the  new  build  would  be   constructed  in  front  of  the                                                                    
demolished terminal 2. He explained  that the phases ensured                                                                    
that container  handling capacity was not  diminished during                                                                    
the project.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter asked  for  verification that  the                                                                    
project did  not require  any additional use  of any  of the                                                                    
other ports in Alaska to accommodate construction.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ames  responded  it  was more  of  a  shipping  company                                                                    
decision about  whether they needed  to go to  other places.                                                                    
He reiterated  that the  requirement at  the Port  of Alaska                                                                    
was to keep the capacity available.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:27:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Risvold looked  at scenario  1  on slide  29 where  the                                                                    
State  of Alaska  provided a  contribution of  $600 million.                                                                    
The scenario  also assumed the municipality  would borrow up                                                                    
to $1  billion, there  would be  no further  federal grants,                                                                    
and port users  would pass the increased  cost to consumers.                                                                    
There was  a current tariff of  $3.30, which was a  user fee                                                                    
per ton and was part of  the tariff 9.0. Under the scenario,                                                                    
the surcharge per  ton increase would be  $21.90, making the                                                                    
new per  ton cost  $25.20 (an 8x  increase in  the surcharge                                                                    
per ton).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Risvold turned  to scenario  2  on slide  30 where  the                                                                    
Municipality of  Anchorage funded the entire  project on its                                                                    
own. Under the scenario,  the municipality would borrow $1.6                                                                    
billion.  The scenario  included the  worst case  assumption                                                                    
where no grants  of any kind were received  from the federal                                                                    
government  or the  state. The  scenario assumed  port users                                                                    
would pass  increased cost to  consumers. He  explained that                                                                    
the current  port tariff  was $3.30.  The surcharge  per ton                                                                    
would increase  $29.65 to $32.95.  He detailed that  the per                                                                    
ton  cost  came   out  at  a  9x  increase   for  users.  He                                                                    
highlighted the importance of seaports  across all ports and                                                                    
communities  of  Alaska.  The municipality  was  asking  the                                                                    
state to  give serious consideration  to the grant  in order                                                                    
to reduce the  amount the municipality needed  to borrow and                                                                    
further the benefits to all Alaskans served by the port.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  considered scenario 2 where  the state did                                                                    
not  contribute  to  the  project.  She  observed  that  the                                                                    
scenario  indicated the  municipality would  have to  borrow                                                                    
$1.6 billion.  She remarked that  the total cost  was listed                                                                    
at $1.2 billion on slide 24.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Risvold answered  that  the $1.2  billion  was for  the                                                                    
cargo  terminals  only,  so the  difference  was  the  other                                                                    
components of Phase 2.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick asked what the  other components of Phase 2                                                                    
were.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Risvold referenced  slide 24  and answered  it included                                                                    
cargo terminals 1  and 2. There were two  different users of                                                                    
the  terminal: one  was a  lift-on/lift-off crane  mechanism                                                                    
and  one was  a  roll-on/roll-off drive  the containers  off                                                                    
with trucks mechanism.  The other parts of  Phase 2 included                                                                    
the  first  step of  the  north  end stabilization  of  $140                                                                    
million and an administration  building of approximately $10                                                                    
million. He explained the items  made up the $1.2 billion in                                                                    
Phase 2.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick pointed  out that  slide 30  indicated the                                                                    
municipality needed  to borrow  $1.6 billion. She  asked for                                                                    
clarification on the different amounts given.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Risvold  answered that  slides 29  and 30  reflected the                                                                    
cost for the entire project instead of Phase 2 only.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick had been under  the impression the requests                                                                    
were only for Phase 2.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bronson replied  there was an aggregate  of five phases.                                                                    
Phase 1    the PCT - would be complete  in the coming month.                                                                    
He detailed  that food  security was  Phase 2  and comprised                                                                    
the  entire  dock  system.  Terminal  1  was  projected  for                                                                    
completion by  the end of  2029 and included  food security.                                                                    
The  contribution   request  to  the  legislature   was  for                                                                    
terminal 1  in Phase  2. He speculated  that the  cost would                                                                    
exceed $1.6 billion due to  inflation. He explained that for                                                                    
the  sake  of modeling,  if  the  city  had to  finance  the                                                                    
project, $1.6 billion was what  it would need for the entire                                                                    
project (Phases 2 through 5).                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:34:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick asked for verification  that the total cost                                                                    
of terminal 1 was $628 million.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames  clarified the numbers.  The total cost of  Phase 2                                                                    
was $1.05 billion for the  cargo docks. The municipality was                                                                    
requesting  a  $600  million contribution  from  the  state,                                                                    
which  represented  a  similar contribution  of  56  percent                                                                    
provided  in Phase  1.  The completion  of  the cargo  docks                                                                    
would result in food security.  He elaborated that the first                                                                    
terminal  would actually  provide food  security because  it                                                                    
resulted in a  resilient dock. He noted it  also happened to                                                                    
cost $600  million, which matched  the 56 percent,  but that                                                                    
was merely a coincidence.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bronson  described the process  as living in a  house as                                                                    
it was torn  down and completely rebuilt.  He explained that                                                                    
if the  entire thing  could be torn  down and  rebuilt while                                                                    
needs were  met via another  port, the phasing would  not be                                                                    
required. He stated it did not work that way.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:36:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter referenced  the per  ton surcharge                                                                    
of 8x or 9x [in the  two provided scenarios on slides 29 and                                                                    
30] and  asked how long the  increase would be passed  on to                                                                    
consumers.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Risvold   answered  that  as   debt  was   issued,  the                                                                    
municipality continued to revisit  the tariff. He elaborated                                                                    
that  the  municipality would  only  issue  debt as  it  was                                                                    
needed, in  addition to  grants from  the state  and federal                                                                    
government. As debt was issued,  the surcharge would be used                                                                    
to  service the  debt. He  explained that  the debt  service                                                                    
ramped up  as issued  over time. He  detailed that  it would                                                                    
hit a  certain high level and  the debt service at  the high                                                                    
level  was approximately  $113 million  per  year. It  would                                                                    
remain in place  for 17 years and as the  initial bond issue                                                                    
started  to pay  off and  mature, it  would ramp  back down,                                                                    
reflecting  a classic  bell  curve.  The municipality  would                                                                    
reduce the per  ton surcharge to cover the  debt service and                                                                    
other covenants investors may require.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter  was hearing  there would be  an 8x                                                                    
or 9x  increase to the per  ton cost that would  continue to                                                                    
be passed on to consumers for the next several decades.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon asked  why there was not  an effort to                                                                    
tap  into the  big  buckets  of money  tied  to the  federal                                                                    
infrastructure act.  It was his  understanding the  port was                                                                    
eligible in theory to access some of the money.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Risvold  referenced slide 27  showing Phase 2  through 5                                                                    
funding sources.  He pointed to  a pie chart with  a section                                                                    
labeled  federal grants  to be  determined. He  explained it                                                                    
reflected  where  the  municipality  would  go  after  PIDP,                                                                    
RAISE,  and  any  other  grants   available  under  the  new                                                                    
Infrastructure Investment  and Jobs  Act (IIJA).  He relayed                                                                    
there were  not any known  amounts to apply for  at present.                                                                    
The known  factors were with  the two MARAD grants  the city                                                                    
believed would  continue to be  offered on an  annual basis.                                                                    
He assured the committee  the municipality would continue to                                                                    
apply for  the grants  and for anything  that came  from the                                                                    
recently  passed IIJA.  He explained  that the  presentation                                                                    
aimed to focus  on questions that had been  presented to the                                                                    
municipality,  which was  the reason  for the  focus on  the                                                                    
cost and timing of Phase  2. Information on Phases 2 through                                                                    
5  had been  included  because some  of  the questions  were                                                                    
focused on  the entire  PAMP cost. He  remarked that  it may                                                                    
not have been as clear on slides 29 and 30.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:40:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  asked  if  it  was  conceivable  the                                                                    
project could receive most of its funding through the IIJA.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Risvold  answered it was  unlikely. He  elaborated there                                                                    
would be a  mixture of funding sources. He  remarked that it                                                                    
was likely the  second largest capital project  ever done in                                                                    
the state.  He communicated  it would take  numerous funding                                                                    
sources to  complete the project and  the municipality would                                                                    
ambitiously   pursue  every   one   of   the  sources.   The                                                                    
municipality   was  present   to   pursue  the   committee's                                                                    
consideration of its request.  The municipality would do the                                                                    
same with federal grants and  MARAD grants and would ask the                                                                    
assembly to authorize additional debt if needed.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hickel added that the  port funding allocated under IIJA                                                                    
was  primarily  for  large-scale ports  and  smaller  ports,                                                                    
which left the  Port of Alaska in the  middle. She explained                                                                    
there  was a  lot  of  competition for  the  funds, and  the                                                                    
municipality did  not anticipate receiving much  or anything                                                                    
from the current infrastructure bill.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon asked if  the $600 million request for                                                                    
state funds  was being presented  because there  was surplus                                                                    
oil  revenue. Alternatively,  he asked  if the  municipality                                                                    
was requesting the funding regardless  of the source such as                                                                    
the Permanent  Fund or  a bond package.  He stated  that the                                                                    
bond package as proposed by  the governor was something like                                                                    
$320 million.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bronson replied  that the  municipality was  present to                                                                    
present a  problem, a fix, and  the cost of the  fix. He did                                                                    
not want to  tell the legislature how to do  its business in                                                                    
terms of how the funding  was structured at the state level.                                                                    
He elaborated that  the planning was in place.  He stated it                                                                    
was  one of  the problems  in life  that enough  money would                                                                    
fix.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon referred  to  a  conversation at  the                                                                    
beginning of the presentation about  putting in pilings that                                                                    
would be  able to withstand  seismic shocks for a  period of                                                                    
30 years  and the physical  risks that would occur  if there                                                                    
was another 1964  episode. He remarked on  the project being                                                                    
the second  largest in the  state's history and  assumed the                                                                    
first was  the pipeline. He  asked if there was  a strategic                                                                    
plan that accompanied the demand  for all five phases of the                                                                    
project  completion. He  noted that  the nearby  airport was                                                                    
growing. He  wondered about the  synergistic effects  of the                                                                    
airport  and incoming  at  sea  transportation. He  remarked                                                                    
that  Alaska's  population had  declined  in  the past  nine                                                                    
years.  He spoke  to the  sequential nature  of putting  the                                                                    
project  together. He  underscored  that  everyone knew  the                                                                    
costs for supplies were escalating  and skyrocketing in some                                                                    
instances.  He referenced  the operating  capacity cited  by                                                                    
the  municipality of  35  and 40  percent  depending on  the                                                                    
season.  He  wondered about  the  scale  of the  project  in                                                                    
relation to the aforementioned items.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:45:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames  referenced Representative  Edgmon's mention  of an                                                                    
overall  business plan.  He relayed  that as  far as  he had                                                                    
seen there was not a  specific master plan related to actual                                                                    
port  volumes on  the  cargo  side. He  had  heard the  same                                                                    
statistics Representative  Edgmon had  mentioned of a  35 to                                                                    
45  percent  occupancy. He  explained  that  because of  the                                                                    
criticality of  the condition of  the structures,  the cargo                                                                    
docks were seen as a  replacement in-kind that would support                                                                    
the existing  capacity and any  growth that occurred  in the                                                                    
future. He would  advocate doing a full  master plan related                                                                    
to  the cargo  docks. On  the fuel  side, they  were in  the                                                                    
process  of doing  that; it  was  where he  saw the  volumes                                                                    
potentially  increasing more.  They were  in the  process of                                                                    
preparing a  petroleum terminal  optimization study  as part                                                                    
of the port modernization.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ames confirmed  it was  a  sequential development.  The                                                                    
reason it was sequential on  the cargo dock side was because                                                                    
the dock  was continuous, and  it was necessary to  keep the                                                                    
current   operations   running   during   development.   The                                                                    
petroleum  dock  had  been  moved to  a  later  phase.  With                                                                    
volumes  increasing,  the  project was  looking  at  whether                                                                    
there was  a need to  develop an alternative  petroleum dock                                                                    
plan and not  delay that development. The  study was ongoing                                                                    
and should  be completed in  the coming three  months. There                                                                    
were a  number of ways  to resolve  the problem. One  was to                                                                    
expand the  capacity of  the new PCT  in terms  of unloading                                                                    
fuels and  cement. He  reiterated that  the cargo  dock side                                                                    
was  about  replacing  in-kind because  of  the  vital  need                                                                    
served by  the cargo  dock and  the understanding  they were                                                                    
still underutilized  of what  they could  be in  the future;                                                                    
therefore, there would be room for expansion built in.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:48:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon relayed  that his  questions were  in                                                                    
the spirit  of supporting  the project  because he  lived in                                                                    
Southwest Alaska and knew how  everything flowed through the                                                                    
port and airport  in Anchorage. He noted there was  a lot of                                                                    
synergy  with  rural  Alaska and  Anchorage.  He  noted  the                                                                    
prices in Anchorage impacted the  prices in his district. He                                                                    
stated that $600 million in the  current year would be a big                                                                    
bite  out  of  additional  oil revenue  expected  and  would                                                                    
compete against many other things.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  would like  to be supportive  in the                                                                    
sense that the Point MacKenzie  and the Anchorage dock had a                                                                    
strong synergy.  She stated there  was no question  with the                                                                    
deep draft and barge traffic.  She highlighted that the Mat-                                                                    
Su  Borough had  recently  received a  $8  million grant  to                                                                    
develop  a  roll-on/roll-off  dock.  She  elaborated  Mat-Su                                                                    
currently  had a  barge dock  that could  handle a  500 foot                                                                    
barge. She  detailed it was  a deep draft port  and incoming                                                                    
ships could have their own  offloading cranes. She suggested                                                                    
it was not as  big of a problem as far as  "when you have to                                                                    
take that  down" because there were  alternatives. She hoped                                                                    
they could  create a synergy  between the two ports  to make                                                                    
work  across the  state for  Interior Alaska  and Anchorage.                                                                    
She  hoped it  was not  a competition  but to  make the  two                                                                    
ports work together somehow. She  emphasized that they could                                                                    
and they should.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:51:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson   thought  the   municipality  had                                                                    
historically  made a  strong  case for  what  it sought.  He                                                                    
noted it  had successfully  litigated in the  MARAD dispute.                                                                    
He  remarked   the  municipality   had  skin  in   the  game                                                                    
associated with  the project. He  shared that he had  done a                                                                    
skiff tour and  had seen the corrosion  firsthand. He stated                                                                    
the  issues and  need  for a  resolution  were apparent.  He                                                                    
looked at  slide 27  showing the federal  grants were  to be                                                                    
determined. He  referenced Ms.  Hickel's statement  that the                                                                    
IIJA was  not a  great opportunity for  the project.  He was                                                                    
hearing anecdotally  other opinions on the  topic. He looked                                                                    
at the  pie chart  showing an expectation  of just  under 50                                                                    
percent from  a federal  grant. He asked  if Mr.  Ames could                                                                    
reconcile Ms. Hickel's comment with the slide.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames could  not reconcile the slide  because he believed                                                                    
there  was a  slight  difference on  what  the slide  showed                                                                    
looking at the whole project  compared to his portion of the                                                                    
presentation  focused on  the cargo  docks. The  project was                                                                    
working directly with  the Port of Alaska  that was applying                                                                    
for the  grants. Currently,  the only  two grants  out there                                                                    
for  application   were  the  PIDP  and   RAISE  grants.  He                                                                    
elaborated it had  been determined that RAISE  grants in the                                                                    
current  year were  focused on  surface transportation,  not                                                                    
ports;  however, the  port was  actively  pursuing the  PIDP                                                                    
grant. The  value of what  the project was seeking  would be                                                                    
in the $20 million range.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ames continued  that in terms of  the infrastructure and                                                                    
mega grants,  the project was  still investigating  what the                                                                    
options were. He  noted that the project was  looking at the                                                                    
IIJA funds to determine applicability.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:55:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  had  some concern  over  what  he                                                                    
interpreted as  ambivalence related  to the  federal grants.                                                                    
He wanted  the envelope  to be pushed  as much  as possible,                                                                    
which he believed the state's  federal delegation wanted "in                                                                    
a state way where we're  not competing with one another." He                                                                    
remarked that the pie chart [on  slide 27] needed to work or                                                                    
the project was left with half of a plan.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bronson understood  the comments  and stated  it was  a                                                                    
difficult ask because the municipality  had to identify a $1                                                                    
billion commitment by the third  quarter of 2025. He relayed                                                                    
that  he and  his  team were  traveling  to Washington  D.C.                                                                    
later in  the month to  meet with Congressional  members. He                                                                    
shared that the municipality  anticipated that the secretary                                                                    
of  transportation  would  come  do a  boat  tour  once  the                                                                    
weather  warmed up  and ice  around the  pilings melted.  He                                                                    
relayed that  the municipality had not  asked the Department                                                                    
of Defense (DOD);  however, the port was  not being designed                                                                    
for the  new DOD  requirement for  Bob Hope-class  ships. He                                                                    
could  not ask  the  Anchorage taxpayers  to  finance a  DOD                                                                    
requirement; however,  the municipality hoped the  DOD would                                                                    
come  in  and  help  with  the  project.  He  spoke  to  the                                                                    
importance  of   the  ports  in   Nome  and   Anchorage  and                                                                    
highlighted  the port  in Anchorage  fed 90  percent of  the                                                                    
state. He commented that Nome's  potential for defending the                                                                    
Arctic  was also  essential. He  stated that  the two  ports                                                                    
worked together.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bronson  recognized there  were  many  unknowns and  no                                                                    
quick fix. He  understood the municipality was  asking for a                                                                    
colossal amount  of funding. He stressed  that the situation                                                                    
was an  existential threat  to the state.  He noted  that it                                                                    
would not  impact Southeast Alaska because  there were other                                                                    
deep saltwater  ports in the  region. He emphasized  that if                                                                    
the dock  fell over, all  of the other conversations  in the                                                                    
state would stop  because there would be no  food for months                                                                    
if  not years.  He underscored  that  if there  was no  food                                                                    
there were no workers, if  there were no workers there would                                                                    
be  no  oil  in  the   pipeline.  He  pointed  out  that  if                                                                    
subsistence  users  needed a  snow  mobile,  boat motor,  or                                                                    
spare parts,  they would be  out of luck. He  explained that                                                                    
life would  get really  bad really fast  in rural  areas. He                                                                    
stated that  the questions people  would be asking  at their                                                                    
dinner tables  were "where  does my family  go for  the next                                                                    
year or  two while  we get this  mess fixed?"  He reiterated                                                                    
there would not be enough food.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:59:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter appreciated  the picture  painted.                                                                    
He did not know  what an 8x or 9x per  ton increase meant in                                                                    
food cost.  He pointed out  that whether the port  fell over                                                                    
or  not, there  would  be an  increase in  food  cost for  a                                                                    
generation of  Alaskans. He stated  they could  not squabble                                                                    
over the billions of dollars and  put 9x the cost of food on                                                                    
a generation  of Alaskans. He  thought it  was unacceptable.                                                                    
He believed  there was no  question that the  problem needed                                                                    
to  be solved,  but he  wondered at  what cost  it would  be                                                                    
done.  He asked  if the  burden  would be  placed on  people                                                                    
through  debt  or  if  the state  would  use  the  available                                                                    
resources.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Merrick  aligned   herself  with   Representative                                                                    
Josephson about  the concern related to  federal grants. She                                                                    
stated her  understanding from Mr. Ames'  testimony that the                                                                    
only thing  the state  was currently  qualified for  was $20                                                                    
million. She stated there was  more discussion needed on the                                                                    
topic. She requested further information  on how the federal                                                                    
funding  would be  shored  up.  Additionally, she  requested                                                                    
updated  slides   27,  29,   and  30   with  only   Phase  2                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HB  283  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
She  set an  amendment deadline  for HB  149 for  Wednesday,                                                                    
March  16th. She  reviewed the  schedule  for the  following                                                                    
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 283 Port of Alaska HFIN-Final-03112022.pdf HFIN 3/11/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 283
HB 283 CON ADDP - 03.11.22 HF.pptx.pdf HFIN 3/11/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 283